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obama was elected with a surplus of about 3 million votes. he won the election. he campaigned on this issue. again, the speaker can't take yes for an answer. the president has presented to him something that would prevent us from going over the cliff. it was in response to something the speaker gave to the president himself, but, again, i guess with the dysfunctional republican caucus in the house even the speaker can't tell what he's going to do because he backed off even his own proposal. mr. president, the house, we hear this so often, is controlled by the reap warnings and we acknowledge that. i would be most happy to move forward on something that senator mcconnell said they wouldn't filibuster over here that he would support and that boehner would support, if it were reasonable, but right now we haven't heard anything. i don't know, and it's none of my business, i guess, although i am very serious, if the speaker and the majority leader, the republican leader over here are even talking. i mean, what's going on here? mr. president, you can't legislate with y
obama was elected with a surplus of about 3 million votes. he won the election. he campaigned on this issue. again, the speaker can't take yes for an answer. the president has presented to him something that would prevent us from going over the cliff. it was in response to something the speaker gave to the president himself, but, again, i guess with the dysfunctional republican caucus in the house even the speaker can't tell what he's going to do because he backed off even his own proposal. mr....
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because then obama gets the tax increase that he wanted, right? the republicans aren't seen by their constituency of giving into the tax increase and then they start from there, anew, and you can bring it down to the middle class tax cut. so, why isn't that the way it's going to be playing out and the meeting by the house on sunday, just optic. obama coming back, just optics. >> well, like i said a couple of minutes ago, it's the relief rally versus the negative impact of the fiscal cliff. in other words, the recession their forces in the cliff, so, you picture two, like a sea change. the relief rally where it's going to happen, when we get a deal. then you have the recession their forces of the cliff right after that, so, you can see those two forces. i've been looking -- >> stocks can trade up during a recession. not when you're going into it. as you see going out of it. >> but it's still $130 billion of new taxes that are hitting the economy. maybe 150. i'm looking at two-month vices future versus the eight-month and i've been tracking it. trac
because then obama gets the tax increase that he wanted, right? the republicans aren't seen by their constituency of giving into the tax increase and then they start from there, anew, and you can bring it down to the middle class tax cut. so, why isn't that the way it's going to be playing out and the meeting by the house on sunday, just optic. obama coming back, just optics. >> well, like i said a couple of minutes ago, it's the relief rally versus the negative impact of the fiscal...
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obama never even put spending cuts on the table. he's putting spending increases on the table for another round of solyndra stimulus spending. he was willing to save money, $1 trillion, but not occupying iraq for the next decade. they kicked him out of the country a little while ago, but he wanted to count that like not continuing the war of 1812 as his budget cut. >> don't you feel though we're at such a fiscal crisis situation that there needs to be compromise on both sides though? there has to be some give to get something done? >> oh, absolutely. look, the republicans passed the ryan plan which saves $6 trillion over the next decade. reforms entitlements. reforms taxes. what we need is some spending restrai restraint. maybe we don't get all $6 trillion that the republicans were tough enough and strong enough and brave enough and courageous enough and serious enough to pass a budget. you talked about harry reid picking on me. harry reid suggesting that i'm the reason they haven't done anything is a little bit silly. he ought to l
obama never even put spending cuts on the table. he's putting spending increases on the table for another round of solyndra stimulus spending. he was willing to save money, $1 trillion, but not occupying iraq for the next decade. they kicked him out of the country a little while ago, but he wanted to count that like not continuing the war of 1812 as his budget cut. >> don't you feel though we're at such a fiscal crisis situation that there needs to be compromise on both sides though?...
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also, as supplies from the obama team, ep achieve lisa jackson stepping down. can the coal companies finally breathe a sigh of relief? guess what happened in britain when the uk banned handguns. the surprising result that could change the gun control debate. "the kudlow report" start ises right now. >>> the big news tonight, still the developments in washington on the fiscal cliff, eamon javers joins us with the details. >> good evening, meshel. capitol hill sources tell cnbc that congressional leaders are planning to go to the white house tomorrow to meet with president barack obama and it is not entirely clear at this point when that meeting will take place and details are still being hammered out and we saw today a blistering series of rhetorical jabs from one side to the other and it's not clear as a result of all that whether a deal can, in fact, get hammered out in the remaining time before new year's eve and take a listen to senate republican leader mitch mcconnell earlier today explaining the problems he's facing in washington. take a listen. >> the tru
also, as supplies from the obama team, ep achieve lisa jackson stepping down. can the coal companies finally breathe a sigh of relief? guess what happened in britain when the uk banned handguns. the surprising result that could change the gun control debate. "the kudlow report" start ises right now. >>> the big news tonight, still the developments in washington on the fiscal cliff, eamon javers joins us with the details. >> good evening, meshel. capitol hill sources...
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at 5:45 p.m., president obama will make a statement. meantime we're asking will all of this hurt the united states credit rating? we'll have shawn eekin when we come right back. stay tuned. [ indistinct shouting ] ♪ [ indistinct shouting ] [ male announcer ] time and sales data. split-second stats. [ indistinct shouting ] ♪ it's so close to the options floor... [ indistinct shouting, bell dinging ] ...you'll bust your brain box. ♪ all on thinkorswim from td ameritrade. ♪ [ cows moo ] [ sizzling ] more rain... [ thunder rumbles ] ♪ [ male announcer ] when the world moves... futures move first. learn futures from experienced pros with dedicated chats and daily live webinars. and trade with papermoney to test-drive the market. ♪ all on thinkorswim. from td ameritrade. >> welcome back. president obama scheduled to make a statement from the white house at 5:45 p.m. on the fiscal cliff negotiations. let's it go to amon for the latest on this. >> i think we can expect a fairly short statement from the president. i would be shocked
at 5:45 p.m., president obama will make a statement. meantime we're asking will all of this hurt the united states credit rating? we'll have shawn eekin when we come right back. stay tuned. [ indistinct shouting ] ♪ [ indistinct shouting ] [ male announcer ] time and sales data. split-second stats. [ indistinct shouting ] ♪ it's so close to the options floor... [ indistinct shouting, bell dinging ] ...you'll bust your brain box. ♪ all on thinkorswim from td ameritrade. ♪ [ cows moo ] [...
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>> obama has all of the power right now. the president had a meeting with congressional leaders and he knows at the end of the day what he wants that 250 threshold unemployment insurance extension, he's going to probably get it. he's going on "meet the press" first time he's going on in three years to put his foot on the republicans and senate republicans to say as this deadline approaches what will you do? will you prevent a small extension of tax rate increases. i'm offering you 250. are you going to take it or leave it. that's hard ball politics. that's what obama is doing now. he's not ceding power. he's letting them haggle over the threshold and he's ending this argument and this debate. >> all right, gentlemen. good discussion. great to have you both on. guys, stick around -- oh, they're coming back. that's right. they're part of the fiscal cliff power panel. >>> let's turn to the market sell-off. the dow going down 158 pointis and want you to see the after-market numbers and the futures, something called the futures c
>> obama has all of the power right now. the president had a meeting with congressional leaders and he knows at the end of the day what he wants that 250 threshold unemployment insurance extension, he's going to probably get it. he's going on "meet the press" first time he's going on in three years to put his foot on the republicans and senate republicans to say as this deadline approaches what will you do? will you prevent a small extension of tax rate increases. i'm offering...
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outsourced obama care, outsourced the stimulus bill. left this to congress, to do all the major works he wanted, left it to them. now he's handing it over. he's the only western this afternoon who doesn't have to bow to the god of re-election, he, if anyone, could compromise, he doesn't have to worry about getting re-elected again. that's driving decision making on both sides when it comes to congress, yet, he doesn't lead. he hands it over to a man who hasn't passed a budget in years. >> at 3:00, we'll meet. and i'll tell congressional leaders, you come up with the package, tyler. >> the real tragedy, what it says about the quality of leadership in this country. they can't lead, seem unwilling to lead. that's what's distressing to individual voters and to the markets. >> thank you, joining us, and thank you, out there. we'll join "mad money" right after this break. and we'll see michelle right after that on a special "kudlow report." let's give thanks - for an idea. a grand idea called america. the idea that if you work hard, if you ha
outsourced obama care, outsourced the stimulus bill. left this to congress, to do all the major works he wanted, left it to them. now he's handing it over. he's the only western this afternoon who doesn't have to bow to the god of re-election, he, if anyone, could compromise, he doesn't have to worry about getting re-elected again. that's driving decision making on both sides when it comes to congress, yet, he doesn't lead. he hands it over to a man who hasn't passed a budget in years. >>...
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president obama cutting short his annual vacation in hawaii to deal with the fiscal cliff. no sight of congressional leaders. they're not in town. investors getting a little bit nervous. will congress get it together in time? no talks that we know of are imminent. it was by at least one measure, the weakest holiday retail sales growth since the financial crisis back in 2008, but could a post-christmas holiday sales bounce be around the corner? >>> and what a year it has been for tech. gadgets and gizmos. apple, facebook, microsoft all have big news. will 2013 be a lucky year for the sector? which tech titans might lead the new trends? simon hobbs is in at the new york stock exchange. >> good afternoon. when president obama arrives back in d.c., can he prevent america falling over the fiscal cliff? house republicans haven't yet called their members back to washington. our chief political correspondent, john harwood, is with us. john, this feels very much like it might be the calm before the storm in more way than one. >> it could be if we go over the cliff and the storm woul
president obama cutting short his annual vacation in hawaii to deal with the fiscal cliff. no sight of congressional leaders. they're not in town. investors getting a little bit nervous. will congress get it together in time? no talks that we know of are imminent. it was by at least one measure, the weakest holiday retail sales growth since the financial crisis back in 2008, but could a post-christmas holiday sales bounce be around the corner? >>> and what a year it has been for tech....
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the obama tax cuts. i'm calling it first. the obama tax cuts. he's going to write a tax cut bill, send it up to the hill, and they're going to pass it. >> expires on january 2nd. >> do we make them permanent, jimmy? 98% of them will be made permanent? >> i hope not. that is not the job of the government. the government's job is to raise taxes and to lower taxes when our economy needs it. that's what the senate does. john breaux, former senator john breaux from louisiana sat on the floor during the 2001 tax bill and said our job is to raise taxes when they need to be raised and lower them when they need to be lowered. that's the senate and the house's job. >> but, one man's -- is another man's -- if you look at the laugher curve you don't know when to raise and when to lower at this point. >> president obama kept bush's taxes in for two years. >> i know. >> but suddenly, you know, democrats like you love the 98%, and you hate the 2%. it's very weird. >> tell him, joe. >> don't hate the 2%. i'm not a self-
the obama tax cuts. i'm calling it first. the obama tax cuts. he's going to write a tax cut bill, send it up to the hill, and they're going to pass it. >> expires on january 2nd. >> do we make them permanent, jimmy? 98% of them will be made permanent? >> i hope not. that is not the job of the government. the government's job is to raise taxes and to lower taxes when our economy needs it. that's what the senate does. john breaux, former senator john breaux from louisiana sat on...
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especially after president obama won the election. senate democratic leadership aide tells me that will remains a 50/50 chance we will get a mini deal temporary extension of tax cuts under $250,000 before the january 1 deadline when we would go over the cliff. will are no assurances of that. a white house official told me as president obama prepares to fly back to conduct and participate in the negotiations at the end, there has been no progress over the holiday weekend. michelle, i'm afraid that people who are looking for a deal and looking for a deal by december 31, all hope is not lost. it is not looking good at the moment. >> let's go back to this hitting the debt ceiling on monday. we learned of this because treasury secretary tim good night mother sent a letter to the honorable harry reid majority leader. and that's where he outline it is fact that in three business days, the summit government is going to run out of borrowing capacity. john, if there were a treasurer in a business who went to their boss and said by the way, thre
especially after president obama won the election. senate democratic leadership aide tells me that will remains a 50/50 chance we will get a mini deal temporary extension of tax cuts under $250,000 before the january 1 deadline when we would go over the cliff. will are no assurances of that. a white house official told me as president obama prepares to fly back to conduct and participate in the negotiations at the end, there has been no progress over the holiday weekend. michelle, i'm afraid...
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who are we hurting me. >> >> let's get on to obama care. originally the whole idea was to save money, cut costs, et cetera, but you've recently said the new health care law could cause insurance premiums to doublery 2013. ? >> there's some places where the premiums will go up by 100%. a 49-year-old in texas can buy a $5,000 deductible policy that's well below the 60% threshold so if i'm at a 45% threshold policy, the and it goes up to 60%, you have a 33% increase just to moving the benefits up. >> seems crazy, that the system is broken and could still double by 2014. >> if we're going to warn americans, somebody's got to pay for it. >> how do you think it's going to pay out, who is going to or what? >> i think it won't start right away like everyone hopes it will. there won't be an october 1st, 2013, are a bright new plan available for everybody, and it's not going to be cheaper, but i think it will be a start and it will be fits rand smart. if we want to insure more americans, and in the long run if we control our krosts we can control tha
who are we hurting me. >> >> let's get on to obama care. originally the whole idea was to save money, cut costs, et cetera, but you've recently said the new health care law could cause insurance premiums to doublery 2013. ? >> there's some places where the premiums will go up by 100%. a 49-year-old in texas can buy a $5,000 deductible policy that's well below the 60% threshold so if i'm at a 45% threshold policy, the and it goes up to 60%, you have a 33% increase just to...
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president obama will meet with congressional leaders again today i
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obama returning from holiday early? is he a man that this is irrelevant? and the market has a bit [ inaudible ] >> couldinged market is not reading this right, could be the president is coming back for strictly symbolic purposes and don't, in fact, get a deal going into new year's eve. we just don't know at this point. and there's a lot riding on this, on advice yowly, that we can't see from here how we are going to get this deal by monday, what's going to be required is these guys are going to have to come to a deal behind closed doors and announce it publicly, it is going to have to survive the vetting it gets publicly and then it's going to have the votes in both the house and the senate, which are very different bodies, one controlled by republican, the other controlled by democrats and that's going to be a very dicy thing to do but it's going to be a moment of high drama if we get a between now and monday. >> his point about proceed yours is a good one. the president spoke to the business roundtable the other day as you recall, eamon, even if you got
obama returning from holiday early? is he a man that this is irrelevant? and the market has a bit [ inaudible ] >> couldinged market is not reading this right, could be the president is coming back for strictly symbolic purposes and don't, in fact, get a deal going into new year's eve. we just don't know at this point. and there's a lot riding on this, on advice yowly, that we can't see from here how we are going to get this deal by monday, what's going to be required is these guys are...
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. >> i'm a little frustrated at the situation we find ourselves in, and the last night president obama called myself and the speaker and maybe others from hawaii and asked if there was something we could do to avoid the fiscal cliff. i would say we're frustrated because we've been asking the president and the democrats to work with us on a bipartisan agreement for months. literally for months, a plan that would simplify the tax code and shrink the deficit, protect the taxpayers and grow the economy. democrats consistently rejected those offers. the president chose instead to spend his time on the campaign trail. this was even after he got re-elected and congressional democrats sat on their hands. now republicans have bent over backwards. we stepped way, way out of our comfort zone. we wanted an agreement, but we had no takers. the phone never rang, and so now here we are five days from the new year, and we might finally start talking. democrats have had an entire year to put forward a balanced bipartisan proposal, and if they had something to fit the bill, i'm sure the majority leader
. >> i'm a little frustrated at the situation we find ourselves in, and the last night president obama called myself and the speaker and maybe others from hawaii and asked if there was something we could do to avoid the fiscal cliff. i would say we're frustrated because we've been asking the president and the democrats to work with us on a bipartisan agreement for months. literally for months, a plan that would simplify the tax code and shrink the deficit, protect the taxpayers and grow...
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you have obama coming back from his vacation to deal with the fiscal cliff. we have low volume situation which moves a little bit more exaggerated. i'm not putting a lot of stock into this move. i think it's a little overdone. >> jim, good to see you for a second time today. you're looking at the chart of crude. technically speaking how important is the move in your view? >> well, this is funny. you started out the conversation with saying how significant is the move? that's what i've been dealing with all day. you look at the chart. we've been in a pretty well defined trend channel for a month or so. right now we've come to the top of it. the market is telling us the news out of the middle east and the news on the fiscal cliff is a pretty big deal. now it's decision time. is it big enough to take it above 91.25 and settle there? if it can't do that, it will be considered a failure. i want to be short oil and i think 8620 would be the downside. >> on the up side we're watching 9125. now you know what our guys are doing. are you buying or selling crude surge t
you have obama coming back from his vacation to deal with the fiscal cliff. we have low volume situation which moves a little bit more exaggerated. i'm not putting a lot of stock into this move. i think it's a little overdone. >> jim, good to see you for a second time today. you're looking at the chart of crude. technically speaking how important is the move in your view? >> well, this is funny. you started out the conversation with saying how significant is the move? that's what...
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major question as the politicians begin to gather again, at least obama, tomorrow morning to try to get a solution. five days to go. >> bob did some interesting analysis or asked some good questions about that mastercard survey and it indicated that maybe that's not the be-all and end-all in terms of the consumer spending numbers but it does indicate that maybe this past holiday spending season wasn't all it was cracked up to be. that will do it for "power lunch" for the day after christmas. >> thank you very much for watching. "street signs" on cnbc begins right now. >>> maybe we should call today's show "sleet signs." the weather wreaking havoc around america again. retail stocks melting down as the consumer finally caved in. a storm of another kind, the fiscal cliff, just days away but there's yet another threat out there which might even have a bigger impact on the economy. we'll tell you what it is. that story ahead. >>> plus, herbalife decides the best defense is a good offense and why amazon and netflix are suddenly feuding like the hatfields and mccoys. >> hello, everybody. on t
major question as the politicians begin to gather again, at least obama, tomorrow morning to try to get a solution. five days to go. >> bob did some interesting analysis or asked some good questions about that mastercard survey and it indicated that maybe that's not the be-all and end-all in terms of the consumer spending numbers but it does indicate that maybe this past holiday spending season wasn't all it was cracked up to be. that will do it for "power lunch" for the day...
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obama not buying anything newnew. anybody buying the dips had to puke them out. that's exactly what happened. professional traders, most of which have been in this week, most others on the sideline, you've bought vix protection, done pretty well as a helping but that's a great display of what happened. >> do you just not want to go into the weekend long, expecting a miracle? >> well, if i had to be forced in, forced into long positions on the selloffs on this kind of day i'd rather be long quite frankly than short against what might happen in washington. rather not have any position, but i'd rather be long than short. >> this has been a market that has shown resilience. >> right. >> with all the uncertainty out there to this point. could that change come monday if after the house meets on sunday night we still don't have a deal at that point? what do you think? >> being long is not a good position to be in, but that being said, if there's any indication of some hope, i think that the short position is going to get squeezed pretty hard, the same on monday. a
obama not buying anything newnew. anybody buying the dips had to puke them out. that's exactly what happened. professional traders, most of which have been in this week, most others on the sideline, you've bought vix protection, done pretty well as a helping but that's a great display of what happened. >> do you just not want to go into the weekend long, expecting a miracle? >> well, if i had to be forced in, forced into long positions on the selloffs on this kind of day i'd rather...
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one hour leaders from both sides of the aisle are scheduled for a sitdown and pow wow with president obama. our eamon javers is there. can we expect the best? >> everybody is certainly talking about it but there are not a whole lot of people who know what will happen here. the sliver of hope is the consensus expectation in watching ton is that the president might lay down an offer for a small deal, some type of extension of the bush tax cut for those under 250 or maybe on up to $400,000 if that's where negotiations take him. and then throw in a bunch of other cats and dogs like, for example, an extension of unemployment insurance for those people whose unemployment insurance is going to run out. a couple of other items and call that a deal. that may be where we're headed here, but we simply don't noah head of this meeting, which is now just about 55 minutes away. meanwhile, here in washington at least one republican senator took the opportunity today to say all of this rests at the feet of the president. take a listen. >> we need two words, presidential leadership on not just taxing rich p
one hour leaders from both sides of the aisle are scheduled for a sitdown and pow wow with president obama. our eamon javers is there. can we expect the best? >> everybody is certainly talking about it but there are not a whole lot of people who know what will happen here. the sliver of hope is the consensus expectation in watching ton is that the president might lay down an offer for a small deal, some type of extension of the bush tax cut for those under 250 or maybe on up to $400,000...
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primarily between house republicans and the obama white house in the senate. but a survey done by northern trust of high net worth individuals' priorities found 44% saying their top priority for the country is economic growth and reducing unemployment versus 19% for reducing the federal budget deficit. another 15% said they wanted to see an end to gridlock. good luck. now, as far as their own wealth preservation strategies. that same survey found high net worth persons, those with $5 million or more in assets, obviously much more proactive in anticipating the tax consequences of going over the cliff than those with $1 million or less in assets. simon? >> okay, hampton, busy days. hampton pearson there in washington. straight ahead, a looming port strike that could cost the u.s. economy billions of dollars. the mayor of houston will join us live to tell us how this strike will affect her cities and cities right along the east coast. "squawk on the street" will be right back. off vietnam in 1968. over the south pacific in 1943. i got mine in iraq, 2003. usaa aut
primarily between house republicans and the obama white house in the senate. but a survey done by northern trust of high net worth individuals' priorities found 44% saying their top priority for the country is economic growth and reducing unemployment versus 19% for reducing the federal budget deficit. another 15% said they wanted to see an end to gridlock. good luck. now, as far as their own wealth preservation strategies. that same survey found high net worth persons, those with $5 million or...
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but president obama coming back from vacation in hawaii. that's an indication that some kind of deal -- however small -- is definitely coming. i want to point out, and i know you've been negative on this mastercard data on retail sales, and everybody thinks it's going to be a mess for the holiday season. i want to point out that the stocks are not acting that way. that this is a disaster for the season. the s&p retail index hit an historic high on december 3rd. historic high. since then, it has only been down about 3%. these stocks are not acting like there's a disaster. i can give you several reasons why they're not down so far. number one, we are going to see eps growth in the fourth quarter from some of them because of the extra week that there is. number two, we've had much lower cotton costs this year. their overall costs are lower. that's helping their earnings. number three, inventory levels are much lower. and that's going to help their gross margins. number four, we had pretty good gdp numbers in q-3. number five, home prices are i
but president obama coming back from vacation in hawaii. that's an indication that some kind of deal -- however small -- is definitely coming. i want to point out, and i know you've been negative on this mastercard data on retail sales, and everybody thinks it's going to be a mess for the holiday season. i want to point out that the stocks are not acting that way. that this is a disaster for the season. the s&p retail index hit an historic high on december 3rd. historic high. since then, it...